How Bre-Z Is Breaking Barriers in Hollywood and Beyond

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friend here, and we just met. Like, we just met, but instant instant friendship. I mean, she insulted me like

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right away. So, it was instant friendship. That's probably right because it was love at first sight. Yes.

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All right. So, Breezy is here on less than 1%.

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And I know we going to talk we're going to talk in a minute, but I have to let you know, listen, we watch you every

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single day. We watch we watch the same episode 87 times. Really?

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And I have a I have a good friend named Leland who looks just like um just like one of the characters. And so I I called

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him. I said, "Hey, can you come to LA?" cuz I want to get a picture. But welcome to less than 1%. Thank you. Amazing. Appreciate it.

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So you're you're I'm just going to jump to it. Jump.

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You're you have an aura. You have a the way you interact with people is special.

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You interact with people like you you're talking to me like you knew me for like 25 years. Yeah. Is that something that's who you are?

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That's how I feel. Yeah. That's how I feel. And I feel like, you know, I'm able to just see beyond and, you know, sometimes not so clearly, but with you,

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it was just like it was instant and I feel like I like having a moment and then I just snapped and I was like, "Wow."

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Yeah. And so we when we were both you were we were both walking to try to go say hi to Dave uh Chappelle. And you rolled in and

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security. I was looking at scar. I'm like, "All right, I'm going to chill out. I'm going to chill out a little bit." But you had a conversation with Dave in there. Can you tell us some of it? You don't have to tell us

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all of it, but what what man? Um, for one, I I was so grateful to be invited to his his showing, um, this

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private showing he had, and I was just I was just so inspired and I didn't really I didn't know what to expect. Um,

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obviously I've been in in this industry a while and I've met a lot of people, but he was just he was exactly who he was, and it's like that is the only

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thing I'm able to respect. You know what I mean? to him, his cigarette and his talking, you know what I mean? But it was just it was honest and it was real

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and um you know I look forward to I thought it was interesting that after the premiere he really focused on questions.

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Yeah, that was an interesting thing and he took it was no because you can't regulate questions. Yeah.

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Um so to your point he was super honest and open. It was just himself.

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Yeah. I just I also like I I I'm looking at again just just being a student of the game like I wanna I want to do standup and people you know like if you

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say like oh you know she offended me today I'm like oh don't worry I'm working on my standup working on it then what you think though you know what I'm saying like um and that's how I was

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looking at it so I was kind of just watching him truly as a student and to even talk with him um you know I seen pieces of myself and some of the things

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that you know like just ways that you are that just are you an acquired taste, I guess.

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So, how did all that start? Right. I'm I'm going to come back to that, but how did it start where you're like, I want to be able to impact the world

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through through these, you know, mediums, these genres. How did this all start?

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I think that was that was a notion that I came here with. So that was an understanding I had at a very young young age like under 10 years old. And I

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knew that, you know, there was power in the way I was able to move people. Yeah.

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Even as a kid, you know, and adults and my relationships, you know what I mean?

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It was always there was always a gap of like, wait, but she's so young, you know what I mean? So I don't know. I just I I

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I leaned into my creativity. My creativity moved people as well, you know. Um, I was a barber

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for over 20 years. Again, my creativity, my art, my desire to, you know, talk and and and understand and it just it just worked itself out. You know what I mean?

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And and here we are now and I'm doing the same thing just on a different stage.

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When you say it just worked itself out, that in some way that minimizes well a little bit.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I chose to walk in the purpose that I felt, you know what I mean? And that was a thing

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that I don't, you know, you don't necessarily make money going around the world being a cool person. Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? But it was it was bigger than that for me. I was able to learn a lot about myself through talking to people and through meeting different people and stuff like that.

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You know, especially not having like huge reflections in my family unit, you know what I mean? So it just it

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carried me, you know, the the entire way my openness.

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When you say you didn't have reflections of you, explain that some more. You didn't see you didn't see what you wanted to become.

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Uh that and I wasn't fully able to understand who I was because people around me had no desire to understand

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who they were, right?

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You know what I mean? So here you are just trying to figure it out. And you know, I mean, as a young black person, the barber shop is a very inspirational place.

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Yes.

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And I mean, majority men, you know, but it helped. I didn't have my father for quite some time in my life, you know?

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Um, at least up until 27 years old, you know what I mean? So, like my

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understanding of a man, what is that? a father uh you know whoever whatever it was you know it was just I learned in travel in motion.

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Yeah. Do you do you do you regret that road? Do you have a like you know when I always tell people that um when people

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talk about the newer generations and um you know this is kind of I think this is a people thing. Could be a black people thing but they're like oh I I had

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it hard so you going to have it hard too. It seems like that was probably something that was not the in your mind maybe the best experience but but but it

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forged you. So how do you The experience was fine. How do you reconcile that?

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The experience was fine. I don't complain about it. Even even the most traumatic moments in my life, you know, I

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you know, I give praise because I made it through.

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Do you get what I'm saying? So for me versus like I'm going through it so you No, I just want to show you how to get through it cuz it's inevitable. You will

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go through it. Do you get what I'm saying? So, I just want to be able to show you how how I was able to get through it and share uh emotion and

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vulnerability and empathy, you know, in ways that people are not comfortable sharing, you know, and I feel like I'm able to do that through the art. And I always want to, you know, keep that the through thread.

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Yeah. You have a you have a way to connect that's up here and then you have a way to connect that gets deep. You know, I notice like in our conversations some things are just, you know, just tripping, just joking.

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And then all of a sudden you'll dive in super deep on something and we we'll connect on something on a whole different level.

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Not many people can do that. You know, some people are just superficial and some people just always want to stay in the, you know, in the doldrums and talk about deep stuff.

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I think duality is exceptional. Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? Like you know, for a person to possess like, you know, it's no reason why we can't be homies and business partners and like kids, you

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know what I mean? Like all that. Me and you are definitely like middle school buddies. Like that's you know what I'm saying? But if that's who we're able to be, why not?

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Right. Right. Giggling for no reason. You're crossing like no reason.

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Yeah. And I I still think no matter, you know, where we travel in life, there is still uh a yearning to feed that the inner child. You know what I'm saying?

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But I'm mad at you though. What's up?

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This is this I've I've wanted to say this my for my whole life watching the show. Why you keep protecting Spencer like that? Why Why' you let Spencer fall, man? You taking hits for him?

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Because that is not the way the story was written. Sir, I will have you know my boy is doing well. He has went to the NFL. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

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Oh wow. Yeah.

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Yeah. So wait a second. It Wait, it's not still going though. Yeah, it's going. I didn't know. Season 8 just premiered. Oh my gosh. Wow.

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Oh my god. Every day.

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No, I do. But I didn't know the new stuff comes on. I know the new stuff is on now. What would you like me to do about it?

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So you get you have no influence on the role? On what role? On your role. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. I've been there since the pilot when I first got the script.

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I was like, "Yeah, I hadn't seen something that was inclusive like that since I was in high school." And that was like our Friday Night Light, Save by

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the Bell, you know, just like groups of kids growing, trial, tribulation, understanding, identity, you know, and I'm like again fast, I mean, rewind.

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this is all things I knew I would be doing. So, it's like, oh, if you get the chance to show that, you got to be that. And I wasn't willing

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to do it without it being honest. You know what I mean? And I had an issue with how, sorry, with how, you know,

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anybody from the LGBTQ community has been portrayed on television.

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Everything's highly sexualized and it's it's all hot and heavy and it's like we're human. Hello.

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You know, so especially because these were kids, our generations and our times have changed. Sexuality is a huge

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conversation. Identity, pronouns, this thing, the other thing.

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We got to tell the right thing. We have to open this thing up. We cannot be narrow-minded. You know what I mean? And I feel like it's always better coming from the horse's mouth.

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Yeah. How how did um how does it play out with the role versus you? Like how much of people always want to know that,

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right? because they connect with you on, you know, through your roles and then so how much of that is you?

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How much or how much of that's just a story somebody's writing about you?

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Um, a lot of a lot of my work and only I can speak to this. A lot of my work has mirrored some version of my life.

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Coupe has absolutely mirrored a version of Breezy in high school, but so did Freda Gats from Empire.

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Yeah. who got to a place where she felt like she wanted to run the streets or she wanted to sell drugs and this is what it means to be gay and you got to

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be a guy. You get what I'm saying? Like I I I went through these things. So I was able to actually, you know, heal

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certain certain moments in my life, going through the work, reading it on paper, watching how it has to be handled because it's already written, right?

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You know what I mean? So these were teachings that I was getting, you know, out of nowhere. Um, but I had to be honest. Whatever it was, whatever was on

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paper, whether it was mine or theirs, I was always able to pull from some place in my life and just show up honestly.

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And then as far as hip-hop, rap goes, you you're able to tell more of your story, right? I always talk about hip-hop and rap being that,

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you know, that way to communicate, you know, for the old heads. Yeah. Or the uncle or OG's, whatever I am now. Yeah.

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Um, but it's a way to communicate that's very different, right? because of the speed, the rapidity at which you're telling people telling your story. So, is there a freedom,

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you know, versus if you look at acting and you sort of following someone's script, you know, versus hip-hop in music

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that is very that allows you to tell just your story.

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Yeah. The music for me was just that place where you you don't have nothing to say about this. You can't say nothing. And that started early on as my

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diary. Yeah. The microphone was the thing I spoke to that didn't speak back.

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Do you get what I'm saying? So, I was able to whatever I had to say, it was able to sit and I was able to sit with it and it was the way I transmuted, you

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know, my emotion and pain or anger or sadness or happiness, you know what I mean? Any emotion I was having, it began to be a coping mechanism, you know what

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I mean? So, a lot of it I kept to myself, you know? So, they were they remained completely separate. The music and now the music I did for television

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obviously. Well, not obviously because the early part of my career, a lot of that music I had done 10 years prior to you hearing it. Right. Right.

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So, do you do you prefer one or the other as far as a form of expression?

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I prefer to just walk in my purpose and through whatever medium that is. I don't care if I'm building houses, right?

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You know what I mean? I'm I'm I hope and pray to be able to show up for that. You know what I mean? And I do feel like, you know, I'm just going to say it.

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I'm not meant to do one or two or three or four. Multi-dimensional.

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Multi-dimensional. Do you have a hard time pulling those things together though? Sure.

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You know, is it is it a challenge? I mean, like, you know, I always talk with people about why is the CEO of a healthcare company doing podcast, you know, doing all this stuff?

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Yeah.

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And sometimes you're like, uh, you know, it's hard to because people always want to put you in one or the other, you know.

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Yeah. Uh, I think that comes with being the less than 1%. Yes. Yes.

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You know what I mean? If I'm being honest, no pun intended, but um I I I do I am someone who needs I need the help.

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I have I need it's it's vital that I have it to manage because that's how much I'm filled with. Yeah.

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So, yeah, I do know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I did think that I I could carry it all and do it all and which, you know, I can to a certain extent, but I get stuck.

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So, the comedy thing I got to we got to we got to go. You threw it in early, but I wanted to get there. Yeah.

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So, I mean, what what's the comedy thing? Although, I mean, I it's another form of expression, another way to connect with people, but it's not one that people

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automatically say, "I'm going to go do this." No, but I mean, it's just a thing that's been with me my entire life, you know, but you're innately funny. Unless you're

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practicing on pre-show, you're I don't know if you're practicing, but you're inately funny.

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I feel like it would be universal, like, oh, is she funny? I think it would have more yeses than we do know. So, what what genre of comedy or would you put yourself in? Or what what comedian?

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Um, I really seen Dave.

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Yeah, I seen it. Dave's my dad's name, too. How cool is that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not cool at all. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. There you go.

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No, but yeah, I seen it. And it was really just the honesty. I don't care what you say.

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This is my life. This is how I transmute. Yes.

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Do you get what I'm saying? So, I I just understood how he stood firm on that respectfully. And I was like, yeah, you know, certain comedians, especially

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coming from his day and age or Richard Prior, whoever, some of those guys were an acquired taste. Yeah.

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You know, and we seen the ones who became easily digestible.

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But, you know, if you listen to him all the way through, which I did, there was something to take from that, right?

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You get what I'm saying? So, not getting caught up in how people deliver things, you know what I mean? I just wherever anyone, it's same with my music.

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whatever you want if you are able to consume it in its rawest form that's when you come see me. So there's a lot

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of aspirational, bright, you know, change the world, less than 1% stuff

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coming coming out of you, right? You know, I mean, I'm I'm absorbing it all. Mhm.

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But what about the dark side? Is there a dark side? Is there a sad side? Is there a is there a pain side, you know, to

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what, you know, to that? You can't just be all light all the time.

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Is there a darker side to Breezy? Is there a Is there Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I am just at a place of understanding the

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darkness of who I am and how that comes about, how that's transmuted, you know what I mean? So I'm I'm actively even as

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I sit here with you, I'm I am I'm still turning and turning, you know, with that because,

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you know, I keep telling myself, you know, I want to keep in the in the front of my mind coexistence.

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You know what I mean? I'm I'm a free form person if that makes sense. So I I may appear

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uh resistant to a lot of things at first sight, you know what I mean? Or I may not depending. Um but the things that we

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feel, they got to come out. Yeah. What brought you to that though?

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Like you you're at a point in your life where you're accepting that all of those things that may be amazing.

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Physical altercation. Physical altercation. altercation in my real life, in my real relationships in my home or in real time, you know, and

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watching relationships sever or crack or whatever.

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And then, you know, turning around from that and and realizing what my part in that was and just really being able to be honest, like, you know, to sit in someone's face and say,

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"Listen, that makes me sad." Sadness is is is a almost an adolescent

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emotion. if it you know unhappy says something different to someone else. You get what I'm saying? But sadness is really like no don't be that.

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Right. Right. Right.

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You get what I'm saying? So there's a sincerity there that's not in I'm pissed. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? And I think mine my sadness had turned to anger and the sadness came from you know I just

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I had struggled with understanding what love was because of the family unit.

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So I'm out chasing. I'm searching. I'm looking. And I'm looking and you know to no avail it made me mad. What am I

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doing? Because I am such a light. Why is it not coming back?

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That's tough. That's that's tough. I mean I think it's I I think that I'm I'm processing it myself.

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Um my mom always used to say you get yourself in trouble when you think people are going to act and behave the way you think you would act and behave in that same

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system. And to your point, like with me, I'm a I'm a person if you ask me right now to go build a house or if you say, "Let's go do this." I if I can do it, I'll do it.

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Yeah.

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Um, you know, but I don't think that's always reciprocated.

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No, it's not. And in the the doggy dog world was, you know, old term, but it has exacerbated like everything else like the price of milk.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? So there's a there's more of a desire to take than there is to give than there's ever been, I feel like. You know what I mean?

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Obviously, we have moments in history that are like not debatable, you know what I mean? But, you know, as we walk

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in this now, you know, and to be a vessel and to be, you know, everything that you know you are, it's just hard,

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you know, when you do have to figure out who you are on a surface level, you know what I mean? Cuz everything won't feel like Martha's Vineyard.

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Yeah. Yeah. You're And I want to get to Martha's Vineyard, but I want to go here a little bit. Uh

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you your passion I think is what's coming through. You're you got a little emotional just now. Mhm.

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Tell me what what was that feeling? What were you thinking about in that moment?

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You know, when you hear yourself say the words out loud, you know, you you can't you can't lie to yourself. And to say them out loud lets me know it's still

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present. To feel what I feel now is to say that it's still present, you know. And like I

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said, I'm still I'm still figuring it out. Yeah.

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You know, I know it looks good and I appreciate it. You know what I mean? But it's a it's something I'm dedicated to and it's not it's not a it's not a walk in the park.

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Yeah. So I I mean I maybe that's what you saw in me. I have the same problem.

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I have the same like I'll be on a plane, you know, you being on a plane. Plane's interesting unless you're going with people cuz you're by yourself mostly.

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Um and I'm fortunate enough to fly enough where I'm mostly in first class.

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So, I'm just saying, you know, I get upgraded or whatever. It's a guy.

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So, I'm sitting next to and it's a different group of people.

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And so, I'm sitting on the plane next to this lady, old lady, and I'm just balling my eyes out. I'm just And I'm

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not I'm not I'm not just tearing up. I'm hicoping, you know, hyperventilating, you know, doing it all, man. Like, you

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know, and I'm super sad. You know, it was a lot of stuff. It was the stuff you're describing right now.

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You know, you're in this role. you're not you're you're kind of being yourself. You know what you know you're not being you know all of this stuff historically things you've been through.

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And the lady said you know why are you okay? And I said no more more tears now I'm not okay

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you know and um and she's like okay well you know tell me. And I couldn't you know first of all I want I don't want to talk to you my man.

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Yeah I want to talk to you but I I kind of couldn't tell her you know. Um, so I I I think that's um I love that I love

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that you are going through that process and I think that people knowing that about you

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makes them want to connect even more. I think well I don't I don't know but I I I do say that no matter what it looks like

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and feels like I always you know at many times in my day am so grateful to be chosen

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to be so aware to be directed to you know my higher

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purpose power calling God myself. I don't think everybody gets the opportunity. Maybe they do but they miss it. Yeah.

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You get what I'm saying? Like I'm sure somebody I guess we would call it rock bottom. Mhm.

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Right. Rock bottom. Once you get down there, there's no way to go but up. Some people stay. Yeah. But I'm climbing up from rock bottom.

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Are you okay telling me about one of those moments where you felt like it was rock bottom for you?

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Um yeah. Uh I can't remember the exact

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event that I I can recall, but I do remember actually do I feel like I received an award from out 100

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and it was like you know it was an award and things were a little rocky in my

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relationship at the time. So I wasn't feeling my best. Um my grandfather was dying. M I wasn't having no information about it.

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He ended up dying. I didn't make it to the funeral. And I woke I you know obviously went

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through my day and you know press and whatever. And I woke up the next morning and the IRS had completely cleared out

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my account because of taxes which is one of those things that kind of you know fell by the wayside because

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we didn't get into it. But this this just happened and it happened so fast.

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You know what I mean? Um and I was like, "Yeah, I don't know." Yeah.

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I don't know. You know, so that is a moment where I was just like, and I truly there was no one to help me understand. There's been no one to help

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me understand, reconcile to to to to clear that up. So once I looked around, you know, 360,

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I was just like, "Wow." Yeah. Is that what it feels like?

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Maybe. You know what I mean? And I'm not I ain't down too long, you know what I mean? In terms of, you know, posture, but,

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you know, it was what it was. And it's just a moment that I experienced and and I've experienced a lot of moments that I think have felt like that

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and and honestly, I've been being shown the same thing over and over. Yeah. until I've gotten it.

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You know, if I'm being honest, but that's the that's the duality.

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It's part of the forging. Exactly. It's part of the forging.

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Exactly. So, I'm like, you can't get to where you got to go if you don't mean to where you been.

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If I if it resulted in me sleeping in my car, then that's just what it was. You know what I

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mean? I just was like, you know, something, you know, and I always say, I believe in God. I'm It's okay. Yeah.

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I'm fine. And I know it could it could sound delusional to some people, but it's truly been the only thing that's carried me.

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Yeah. Do you find that in those moments that we both talked about, um there's a there's a there's a solitude I don't

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want to call it loneliness cuz loneliness implies that when you're by yourself going through something that you want other people there, but there's

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a solitude I think to those moments. And I always feel I always is funny like I always say when people want something from me

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they hit me back right away all the time. When they want something like right away when they don't want something from me it's a little time before they respond.

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And just for the record my bad man. I was at No, no, no, no. You can't even claim it.

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May you may think it's funny, but I'm going tell everybody what you did. What?

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I text Breezy at like 2:30 because I I don't sleep. Same. I don't sleep. Twin.

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I do not sleep. Like I get mad. I fall asleep. Oh, why am I asleep? 240 250. He's not supporting that.

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Yeah, it's not healthy. I'm not saying it's healthy, but it is. I've I've owned it now cuz it is me, you know. Yeah. I texted you must have about 250.

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Yeah.

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Bloop bloop. Actually, wasn't even a Was it DM? It was a DM.

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Was it was a It was a text. I think it was a No, it was a text. No, it was a DM. It was a DM. It was a DM.

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right back. These kids, I tell you.

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Yeah. But no, that that's But you know what? I I I responded so fast because of what I felt.

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Yeah. I appreciate and I didn't want to I wanted to hang out the night. I was like, "Where are you going?" No. Like, you know, because I came, I was there by myself, you know

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what I mean? And I was just, you know, being people, you know, and and I look at life sometimes, you know, like being on the playground. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? And then when I was in school, like uh I never had nobody to play with. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? Cuz everybody's too restricted in some way. You're too cool or you're too corporate or you're too And I'm just like, come on, man.

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That's a great That's actually a great point. You know what I mean?

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That's a great point. I mean, that's what I I kind of liked about Martha's Vineyard to a degree. People's the airs are kind of dropped for a minute.

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Yeah.

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I mean, even Dave, right? like everybody is sort of like, you know, I was like I was like when Dave came in the room I was like wait a second that cigarette, you know, like you're

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like, "Okay, Dave's here." You know, and then you look back and he's coming down.

27:18

Um but that's what I liked about it. I like that there was not that pretense. Yeah. Like you can't get too close to anybody. Yeah.

27:24

Um but you know um Marty um was on the show uh playing the NFL

27:31

and he said one of the the best way to solve problems is through play.

27:38

So I, you know, through the kid the kid, you know, because they they they function very differently than when we get adults and we have all this stuff built up.

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27:42

Yep.

27:47

Yeah. So what do you love the most about All American? I want to know now. I I got What's the inside scoop on I love our reach.

27:54

Yeah.

27:55

I love our reach. I mean, like I said, I keep coming back to Purpose, but I mean, that show has helped so many people and

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families, and we definitely targeted a generation, you know what I mean? So, at one of the roughest times, I would say, in their

28:11

early life era, you know, the opioid epidemic, um, depression, identity, again, sexuality, all those things. This

28:19

is the world is in constant argument about these things. And we were able to, you know, put these things on display in

28:28

a digestible way for everyone to understand. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? And not single someone out because they're addict or single you out because, you know, or or learn how to support you as you're

28:39

coming out, whatever that is. You know what I mean? And it just kind of gave people who are not in your life a bird's eyes view of what the lives of these

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people may be. And I've had people come to me 10, 20 year age difference, sometimes 30 to say I had no idea and thank you.

28:59

Yeah. Thank you for just showing showing us. Yeah. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? Like Right. You had an impact on me even though Yeah. I had a family from Jerusalem stop me in the airport. Wow.

29:11

You know, there was extreme language barrier, but one kid was able to communicate with me and he was eight years old. Oh, wow.

29:17

He was able to communicate with me that his family watched the show.

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So, you know, I think the reach like, you know, whatever when a message is meant to be received, it will land, you know. So, I I that's my it's my favorite

29:29

part about it because what am I doing it for? Yeah. I'm not in a circus.

29:33

How does fame how does fame work with you? How does what how do you how do you manage that? How do you you know, is that something you just, you know, I

29:40

think some people struggle with that depending on I struggle with like lack of privacy sometimes. Um but other than that, I don't really see it as such. Yeah.

29:50

You know what I mean? I feel like I was a popular girl in high school. Yeah.

29:54

I was a popular girl on my drill team or my cheerleading team or the basketball team. You get what I'm saying? So to be someone that people gravitate to

30:03

wasn't a new feeling, you know? Uh to be on stage wasn't a new feeling. To be pointed at, laughed at, whatever.

30:11

Not a new feeling. You know what I mean?

30:13

So I kind of just I just walked in it with with who I've always been. And you know, as I've grown into the woman I am now, it's just like, you know, certain things I don't I don't have time for.

30:22

I'm understanding boundary and how to speak up for myself and say, "Hey, listen. You know, I'm an adult. Can you say hello to me first?" Right. Right.

30:29

For throwing your phone in my face, right?

30:32

Do you get what I'm saying? So, you know, there's certain things like that, but the excitement with people and and all that and and you know, being on the vineyard made me realize the impact.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? So, you you have no idea what you do for people. You know what I'm saying? So, That allowed me to let another guard down with the fame. Like, you know what?

30:52

You you let these people receive you. Yeah. Because that's why you are here.

30:58

That's a lesson. So, you're you you're preaching to me and that's a lesson. So, I tell you a funny thing about Martha's Vineyard. So, I went there for the book fair. Um, and I was surprised.

31:06

I seen your book everywhere.

31:07

Yeah. You I didn't get one. You saw You about to get one today. I bet I'm I'm going to sign it, too.

31:13

Yeah. So I'm uh so I go to I go to this book fair and this first time I got you get accepted. You have to you know it's all this stuff and I'm

31:20

shave that head good get there with upside back back corner rubbing the you see you know

31:28

you already know cuz them little hairs grow faster now. I know y'all always miss it.

31:32

Yeah you got to you got to get there. You got to shape up on your neck.

31:34

And you know, as a barber, you know, if you try to shave them real close, it's giving brow, right? It's it's going to be crispy crunchy.

31:43

It's going to be terrible.

31:44

Kit Kat Nestle Crunch on the back of your neck.

31:48

Yeah. Exactly. Right. So So anyway, so I I I I go to this thing and you know, I'm I'm awkward. I'm awkward in there. I'm

31:56

like, "You know, I don't know anybody and I'm you know, I say my book on the table. I'm like, "Oh, my book got you all my books on the table." So then um

32:05

so then the next day and I interact with everybody. Hey, how you doing? Okay. So the next day you go and then all the books are out for sale and then but they got a big stage.

32:15

Separate the men from the boys.

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Yeah. Right. Hey hey the So I So I'm supposed to be going and talking to people and interacting with people. I'm standing in eyeshot

32:25

of the of where the books were and I'm looking and I'm like, "Hey, somebody picked it up and put it down. It's not selling. It's not. It's not good. It's not good." Anyway, they all sold out.

32:36

They all sold out. So, to your point, right, it's like that doubt that doubt that came. I love that. Congratulations.

32:42

Yeah. No, it was it was it the vineyard, I think, was interesting on lots of levels. I'm glad I went.

32:48

Yeah. I heard it was only 10 books, but I'm glad that she sold that. No, it was three months. My mama bought seven. My mama bought seven.

32:56

Could you imagine? Yeah, my mom. Yep. Yep. We came up there. 20 books. They all sold.

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They all They all sold. I'm coming back with a bag full of books. I bought the mama.

33:05

No. No. That's that's that's a good point. No. Selling a book is terrible, by the way. It's terrible.

33:09

Yeah. But I'm I'm learning that to like allow yourself to be be received. You know what I mean? You are teaching through what you're doing. You're

33:17

teaching through that book. You're teaching through the degrees you've gotten. whatever you you're sharing the information. So, you know, book fair, no

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book fair, whatever. If your face is on it, allow yourself to be received because that's part of your purpose. You know what I mean? So, I I I just like

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landed there like, yeah, don't worry about it. It's all good. Yeah. You know?

33:38

All right. So, we we have a we have now we got to go to the part of the show where we might offend some people. So, let's offend some people.

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Let's do it. Hey, top five.

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Dead or alive? Who? All alltime top five rappers.

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Rappers. I don't know if I got five to put to you right there like that. But I'mma give you Lauren Hill.

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Lauren Hill. That's strong. That's That's crazy. Breezy. Hey, let's go. Uh DMX.

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Okay.

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Um Drake. Okay.

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I'mma go with because it might be unpopular but I'm going go with D'Angelo. D'Angelo? Yeah. D'Angelo had bars.

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Yes, he did. But um um that's a very what?

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No, it's just a very interesting Yeah. Yeah.

34:31

Okay. So, so I'm from Toronto. I got to put I got to agree with Drake. Of course.

34:36

I got to agree with that. But I do think I think that what Drake is also good good at detracts from the rapper part

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for for some people the rapper.

34:47

Yeah. So what Drake is also good at Drake is good at hooks. Drake is good at R&B. He's good at all those things and

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it I think it detracts some people see that as a distraction for pure hip-hop, right? So but I I have Drake. I just

35:01

like the way he I like, you know, and I like I like artists who are free to be who they are. That's what makes you great to me. And I feel like

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Lauren Hill was that. She was one of her own. I feel like X was that. Yeah.

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He didn't care. You know what I mean? Um I feel like uh Drake is definitely one of that. No ma I mean one of them no

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matter what. Um and D'Angelo was too. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? And no matter what, when you put the words on the paper, nobody knows if it's rap or R&B. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

35:32

Melody is the only thing that changes that. You get what I'm saying? True. In cadence, you know, but those people who were able to put pen to paper or voice

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to a microphone did it in a way that I don't see people recreating, redoing what the case, you know.

35:47

What about what some people that I that I don't know if they're top five, but when you say that that I think of are I almost put Anita Baker on there. You need I almost did.

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Yeah.

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No, that it's interesting the way you It's more of a lyricist. Yeah.

36:04

Not necessarily just What did Why is it just rap? Right. Why is it just rap? Right. So, what what about what about Andre?

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3,000. Yeah.

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Of course. You only gave me five slots, though. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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You only gave me five. I could run through Atlanta. Atlanta might take up like 20.

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Yeah. I think Andre is just to to like I'm like, "Bro, Andre, stop playing the flute, man. I want you to rap. Like, I want to hear it. It's the selfish part.

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Don't tell him stop playing. No, but it's the selfish part of me. It's not It's not the right part of me.

36:31

He's expressing himself how he should, but the part of me that loves Yeah.

36:35

that That's the hardest part about fame. Yes. Yes. That's it.

36:40

That's the thing right there. I want something from him that's different from what he wants to put out into the world. Yeah.

36:46

And he said he said that on multiple interviews.

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Yeah. And it is what And I experienced the same thing even just being an actor and a musician, you know what I mean? People want what they want from you.

36:56

They don't want what you want to do. The thing, music is the thing that keeps me alive. Keeps my blood flowing. It keeps me happy. It keeps me vibrant. I don't

37:04

care. I'm not carrying a lot. I put it all there. You know what I mean? So, in whatever form this comes in, I ask that you receive it. Yeah.

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Because know that you're helping me.

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You get what I'm saying? If I start beating on the table, bro, if you don't like it, put the earplugs in, but still tell me.

37:19

You get what I'm saying? You still got to be supportive, you know? So, it's it's it's hard. And I know Andre, I've heard him speak that it's, you know, not hard for him cuz he's like, "Fuck

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it." But yeah, you know, it it's complicated when you do, you know, you do have people. You have to be considerate of your audience, too.

37:35

Doubters, people that doubt you, how do they impact you? How do they affect you?

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Are you or do you do you do you I know that you say that you create you create what you're creating

37:48

based on what what moves your purpose, but do the people that you know do people get under your skin and do you h

37:57

not so much anymore? It's kind of like I I've always my issue was always like,

38:04

you know, boundary boundary. You get what I'm saying? There was a point in my life where I was so open to all of that, easily accessible,

38:13

the windows to my life, wide open, so doubters, naysayers, whatever. Everybody had the ability to penetrate me. You know what I mean? Not so much anymore.

38:20

So I don't I don't really deal with that. And intuitively, what I do know is not enough to move me. You know what I mean?

38:30

And more often than not, I really just wish, you know, you treated me better. Yeah.

38:36

Or you thought better of me, but I'm not in a I'm past the place of my life of trying to vindicate or prove.

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Yeah. I don't know if I'm trying to prove, but I definitely remember them cuz it's going to happen whether you like it or not.

38:49

That's true. You know, that's true. So I can't and and again just prioritizing what what what is what's worth my time and what's not.

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Yeah.

38:57

Don't spend no time over here doubting this thing. Yeah. Home me girlfriend boy.

39:04

Uh what do you think your superpower is? The ability to feel.

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I think that's my superpower.

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Feel just what you're going through or is it everything? Everything. like empathic kind of Yeah.

39:23

Yep. Yeah. Give me an example of that.

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The moment I felt your insecurity outside of the the And I say disrespectful, but it

39:34

is what drew me closer cuz I thought you were such a wellresented, wellspoken.

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I I you told me what you did the book. I knew there was so much information I had up front and then who I felt like I what I felt like I knew intuitively and I

39:49

just I I told you I said you're a beautiful man like you did say that very handsome guy like a pleasure to meet you and I shook your hand and

39:57

hugged you and I whatever it was I just wanted you to know that and that is what I mean by the ability to feel because I didn't have to say that and

40:05

I'm not going to say I don't want to specify any particular insecurity you can use doubt You can use timid. You can

40:13

use whatever you want. Only use I think that's the right word.

40:15

What you were feeling. But I think that's the right word. I think that was that's the right word and and multiple on multiple levels.

40:23

But I think that was an awkward I'm I'm internally awkward.

40:28

Yeah. But like I can feel those things and so my the way I am allows you to get out of that.

40:36

Come on, bro. We're running down the street. You're like we're going like you know what I'm saying? That is what it takes. Yes.

40:43

And like you said, there's what did you say your friend said?

40:47

What about problems in the fun? What did he say?

40:50

Oh, he said he said Yeah. He said that that play is a way to solve all problems. Yes. Yes. Yes.

40:56

So, it's the little things. Now, if I was some stuck up celebrity, if you will, super famous, you know what I'm saying? I'm talking about cigarette, don't talk to me.

41:05

Do you get what I'm saying? If I was that type of person and I was just like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. I gotta go." Yeah. like it it could have even if

41:12

it chipped away at you this much it just still wouldn't have been a good feeling. You know what I mean?

41:16

Yeah. No, I think that's right. I think that um can't do it every time but we had a isolated moment. But I think I think the challenge with those environments or any

41:25

environment when you start to get a little bit of headway into your your field and industry like so in healthcare right like there are fields and

41:33

industries that I go to where people um are behaving like that towards me right like um you know like but like hey you know

41:40

I'm an expert you know oh moo's on the stage you know or you know that kind of reverence if you will um

41:47

but the worlds that I'm in I don't have that same heft, right? So, if we were in a healthcare world, right,

41:54

and you know, I saw Dave Chappelle, I'd be like, "Yo, Dave, come over here, man. Let's talk, you know." Yeah.

41:59

Um, but in a different world, you know, I'm trying to like, you know, can I say hi? You know, so I said hi to him, right?

42:05

You know, I I said hi to him. Gave him a little bit of a pound, you know, just bump the rock, right?

42:10

But I didn't say, "Dave, come let's hey, I want to take a I want to remember this moment because I felt like everybody was going to ask him for that." You know, it's a

42:18

very interesting dynamic to be uh different different worlds and how you how I have to manage those, right? My

42:28

hip-hop world, my you know, athlete world, my medical professional world, my, you know, all of these different

42:35

worlds that exist where I don't have the same weight in each one. So, and and to your point, who cares?

42:42

Yeah. I'm like thinking like I'm thinking because I I mean in in my field as well like you know there's a difference in going to

42:52

the Critics's Choice Awards and the BT awards. Yeah. Yeah.

42:55

Maybe in the you know it's kind of like there's cocktail cocktail attire and then there's casual. Yeah. Yeah.

43:03

It shouldn't change personality though. Yes.

43:05

Do you get what I'm saying? So if you want Moose on the stage then bro you could get Dave at the burger shop too, right? and get him in the ER if you see him in there. You get what I'm saying?

43:15

So, whatever it is, because who you are is going to remain, should remain.

43:20

You know what I mean? But I understand it because I used to feel like, oh, I need to put on something something up here to be able to communicate

43:28

because y'all are 60s something years old. And I'm like, yo, my edges is pissing me off right now. Give me a second

43:36

because I just started wearing these bra. Like, you know what I'm saying?

43:38

Like, but I gotta just be honest. You know, obviously you're not going to say you just respect, but personality and who Wait a second. How did we get to me? How did we get to me?

43:48

Because I ain't scared like you.

43:50

No, no, no. But I thought we said we were talking about your superpower.

43:52

We talk about me. I don't know. Because we're talking about feeling. Yeah. Yeah.

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We talking about feeling, you know.

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Yeah. You You sense now. I remember you sense those feelings.

44:05

Yeah. So, so thank you for going on and on and on and on and What else do you sense about you? Yeah, let's go. Your genuiness.

44:13

Okay. Your genuiness. I appreciate it. Okay. I do. Not my Not my Jamaicanness.

44:18

You don't even sound like you're from anywhere. I don't even know what to say about you. I don't I have zero accent.

44:23

I'm I'm telling you, you got the cleanest shave I've ever seen. I don't know. You don't look like you ever had a bump on your face. You might be an alien.

44:32

Oh my gosh. But I think that the to be able to feel in the to the depth that I am, I think it's special. Okay.

44:39

Cuz I know people who just Yeah. Yeah. I mean, spaced out.

44:43

Okay. So, I'm excited that I'm bump free. Um, you know what? I'm not going to lie. I

44:52

think it just comes with like brown skin.

44:54

No, something. No, it comes You got to You got to You can't shave against the grain.

44:59

I don't shave against the grain. But if you but if you if you shave with the grain this way I shave down. Okay. Yeah. I shave down until I go down.

45:07

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's with the grain. You got I shave all my hair down.

45:11

But if you went if you go against the grain then you get the hair lower and then you get them damn bumps. Well, you see how smooth I am? Yeah. Yeah.

45:18

So I I literally I shave in across. Oh, you know what I mean? Yeah. Feel it. Feel it.

45:27

Yeah. You tell I got a beard. Yeah. My my my my stuff is

45:36

Okay. Okay. So, you need to be serious. Don't you got an NBA or are you in the NBA?

45:40

I got an M Yeah, I got an MD. I got an NBA. You know what the funny thing is? I go to all these things and I'm like, y'all don't even know. Y'all people I

45:48

walk in rooms and people are like, "Oh, is Dr. Tomlinson here?" I was like, "Yeah, that's me." They don't know it's you.

45:54

Yeah. No, they don't. Sometimes. I mean, sometimes. I mean, you know, it's good.

45:58

It's good. Okay. So, we got to They know who you are.

46:02

We got to verify what we got to verify the superpower. We can't just take your word for it. Okay.

46:08

So, if you're okay with it, we'd like for you to call somebody and just introduce. Say, "Hey, I'm on less than

46:16

1%. Um, Moo Moo's going to ask you a question." And then I ask them the question and we we see if they line up.

46:25

And uh because normally we do this, we have it on Bluetooth, but um if you can just do speaker phone and then put it into the into the mic, then we can then we can hear what they have to say.

46:35

Damn. I want to But who will you call?

46:41

I want to call somebody. I just don't know. I I feel like I would have to give her a heads up. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. That's okay. So don't do that one.

46:48

I mean, you can It's okay to give him a heads up to say, "Hey, we're about to call with a question." Yeah, that's fine.

46:55

Because that's true. You never know.

46:58

You know, let me see.

47:00

You never know. You want somebody to know that you're going to call and not just We've had people call and not answer.

47:08

You like people call like eight, nine people and nobody answered.

47:11

I'm going to call my homie back in. See, I just got the phone with her, too.

47:15

She's gonna be like, "What you want?" would do the Yeah, I'mma I'm I just text her to see.

47:25

Oh, you want to do this one? No, let's do it. Let's go. Yep. Whatever.

47:30

Yo, I know. I just spoke to you.

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47:35

Listen, I'm on this podcast and I'm on with a doctor and he told me to call a trusted person cuz he wants to ask you a question about me.

47:41

Okay, hold on. Hold on. Oh, introduce yourself. Wait, this is Tony. This is Tony. Go ahead. Hey, Tony. How you doing? This is Moo.

47:48

How you doing? This is Tony Minaj.

47:50

All right. Great. Great to meet you. And uh we got great.

47:54

We got Breezy here in the studio at less than 1%. Um our podcast is about people who have broke molds, people who have

48:01

really um broke boxes and changed the world. And I think Breezy is 100% uh that kind of individual. But we ask

48:10

everybody Yeah. We ask everybody uh on that comes on the show what their superpower is. But then we don't just

48:17

trust them to answer it. We want to validate and see what other people that are close to them have to say about their superpower. So what would you say Breezy's superpower is?

48:28

Man, I would say that Breezy is a superhero. Uh superpower is not a strong

48:35

enough phrase to describe her. Um I don't know if I've ever met anybody who is so multi-talented.

48:43

Um you know, she's she's a an incredible actor, but an incredible writer and an incredible MC, an incredible barber.

48:54

Like, she covers so much ground. So, I I I wouldn't say superpower, I would say superhero to describe her. Um, and and

49:03

and then just a a bright light. She's just a wonderful human being. And that's hard to find when you've done as much as

49:11

she's done in this industry. you know, the the work that she's done speaks volumes. But when you meet somebody whose light is bright and their energy

49:20

is is good and they welcome everyone. Um because a lot of times in this business, people get famous and they get jaded and

49:28

they they they forget about where they came from. I would definitely describe them more as a superhero than a superpower.

49:36

Wow. That I don't think anybody has ever answered it that way. Usually people focus on one aspect or other, but you're

49:44

looking at the whole person um as there just there's just so many incredible things like that would be

49:51

boxing her in for me to just answer the one question. I have to like uh you know

49:58

just give you the the whole person   the person that I've experienced in the time that I've known her and and that's

50:06

the only way I can describe her. How do you How do you feel about that?

50:11

I I I mean, as you can see, it makes me emotional. Yeah. Um I I just It just feels good to be seen and to be loved.

50:19

Yeah. You know, truly. Yeah.

50:22

And that's like I told you, that's something I struggled with.

50:24

Why don't you tell   uhtell her what you said? Um, I said that my superpower was

50:31

the ability to feel and to be able, you know, the level of empathy, the the the depths that I'm

50:39

able to travel with myself and with people um in seamlessly.

50:45

Yeah. And I think I think that ties in with with the last thing that I said about the just the humanness and the kindness. Um, you know, like I said, you

50:54

know, being in this industry for as long as she has and with all the accomplishments

51:01

uh   uh throughout   the work speaks for itself, you know, there's a whole lot of of of leeway not to be humble and not to

51:10

be kind and and to be short with people, but that that that's not the energy you will ever get from Breeze. She's a light

51:18

and   um and a lot of people don't have that light. So she's special unless we encounter the dark side.

51:25

Yeah. Yeah. Unless Unless Unless you flip that Anakin Skywalker switch and it's right and unless you and then Right. Unless you get the other side.

51:34

It's like you got the high ground Anakin. I got the high ground.

51:37

I want to operate just at the high level that you know what I mean which is the light. You know what I mean? So you know with all the other things they fizzle their way out.

51:46

Yeah. Well, we appreciate you. Sorry to take your time.   Uh great answer.

51:50

Yeah. I'll take the time anytime for breeze. So, thank you for   uhthank you for asking me. Right. Appreciate you. Appreciate you.

51:57

All right, sis. I'll hit you in a minute. Thank you so much. Of course. You said everything I told you to say. Thank you, dog.

52:04

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Pay me. I want my money. I actually played her in the movie.

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52:10

Oh, did you?

52:13

Yeah, I played her in the movie. Her name is Tony Minaj. Um, she was backup singer for Lisa Lisa. Yeah.

52:21

Nicole Jam. Yeah. So, I just did a biopic for Lisa Lisa and I played her manager Tony. Wow. Is that out now? Yeah. Oh, wow.

52:29

Yep. It's on Netflix.

52:30

So, how many how many obviously All-American, but how many things are active are you actively doing? Is Man, I I'm doing a lot. I'm doing a lot.

52:39

I I'll I'll bring you into the fold. But uh just everything that we spoke about um putting that into the art

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and being able to, you know, be more inclusive with that with the access with um you know, the creativity and just

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just that's how I plan to leverage this this whole thing that we call fame, celebrity visibility, you know what I

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mean? I just want to be able to move, excuse me, our culture forward, whatever um I'm able to do. And I do

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feel like don't nobody do it like I do it. And I I am like whoever I am enough to say that. And I just

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I'm understanding at this place in my life that I can't do it all. I cannot do it all because I only got two hands and 10 figures. You know what I mean? So I

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am, you know, currently aligning with like-minded people who are able to help me carry out the mission.

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No, I think you're carrying it. I mean, I think you carry it. you carry it in your soul and it comes out. And to your point about readers, I call them

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readers. I feel like I'm a pretty good reader.

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Um I thought you were talking about the readers.

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Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't I'm not on the readers yet.

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You I thought they were readers, but I think that um I can also read in in other people.

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Um and I think that you know what you bring, your passionate you bring, that's that's why you've been successful and you'll continue to be successful because

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of that. And and people again that it's always like you know do you want to be in in a room with a lot of people who

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can't see you or in a small room with everybody who can see you. And I think the latter is the is the better.

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I think there are a few people in big rooms where everybody knows who they are and they love that person.

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But I don't think they know everything about that person when they're when they're there.

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Well, one thing I know I'm going to call Dave and make sure you get that picture. Yeah.

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And we going to have that conversation and all that. Well, you and Dave going to go to lunch. I I'm I'm I would be down for it.

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Yeah, cuz we we it's only way it's only way.

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So So it's weird cuz I had a connection I had an ability to make a call to to kind of get in that room

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um with somebody who's done some work for me, does executive producing and stuff.

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I don't want you know, come on. Like you know, you know what I mean? But I walked out of the room. Yeah.

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Come get you, take you to the private room. Private dining. Me, you, and day.

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Yeah. Oh, but you know it's just it's just tight because you know for everyone to be able to exist in the same place is just dope.

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It's exactly what we were just talking about the people on stage and then you coming out you got all these different roads in your life that you got to walk

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down. There's no reason why me you Dave Courtney B Vance and the owner of Lowe's Yes.

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is chilling like Yeah. You know what I mean? Because why not? Yes.

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You know what I mean? There's something when we when you walked into a lunchroom in high school. That's how it was. Exactly. That's how it was.

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Exactly. I don't know why we became adults and now we're we look racist. We look like we only deal with each other and Yeah. You know,

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and we purposely try to look for reasons, I would say, not to interact or to or to draw separation for the first reason why you can't. Yeah.

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And you immediately think somebody gonna take something.

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That is a great point. That is that is a that is a fantastic whether they gonna take it or not is not the point and that's what people should know.

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Yeah. You know what I mean? So it'll happen.

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Okay. So a couple things I I want to do um rapid fire. Boom.

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Because you know rapid fire with with top five. Top five. Yeah. You know. Go. Hey. Top two but not two.

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Top two but not two. Top two but not two. Okay. So ready.

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We're going to do rapid fire. Okay. So, one word. If you want to elaborate or if I want to dive in, we we reserve that, right? So, we're just saying a word.

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I'm saying a word. You give me a word back. I'm going to say another word. They just have to make sense.

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They don't have to. I mean, it can make sense, but it should make sense wherever you come back. It should make sense to you. Okay.

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But I reserve the right to be able to dive in cuz if it doesn't make sense to me, I'm I need to know more. Okay. Like, why did you say that?

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Yeah. Why did you say that? Okay. I like that. All right. Ready? Love. What? Love.

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Hate. Power, struggle, sadness, frustration, work.

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Where? Say it again. Where? Not where, but where. Wear and tear. Okay. Wear and tear. Okay.

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Um, robot. Roadblock. You want me to explain that? Go ahead.

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Cuz you said wear and tear. I feel like I'm a robot. I feel like I You said robot. Yeah. I thought you said roadblock.

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No, robot. Robot. Robot. See, this is the accent. This is the torantonian accent coming out. No, you got I'll tell you later. Okay.

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Robot. Two twos, fam. That's what I was about to say. My two, fam. Two twos, fam.

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You were funny. That's exactly what I was about to say. I Oh, man. I said that in a rap. I got to play it for Yeah. Yeah. Let's go.

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Robot, why do you feel like that? Oh, I feel like I feel like I don't need sleep. I don't need to eat. If you I go two days and not eat.

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Even though as a doctor, science tells you.

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I know the I know that. I know that. But I feel All right. I ain't even mad at you. You know why? Because I feel the same way about myself.

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Yeah, let's go. Like I'm just doing like whatever.

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There are things that we need to do, but I do feel like I'm just built a little different. Like I could potentially run on hot tamales. I could I could I could

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all like three days straight. Listen, what happened on a diet? What What are you eating? Hot tamales.

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You know, Mike and I just We are totally went off topic. All right. Robot,

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mechanics, process, mechanism, rapper,

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artist, emotion, creativity.

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That's a good one. Um, change the world.

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Stevie Wonder. I'm about to say Michael Jackson.

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My very change the world. Right. Right. You know, I cut Stevie Wonder's hair. You cut Stevie Wonder's hair. Mhm. No.

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Right. What a dream. As like a young barber.

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That was like something that I was able to fulfill. Like not not even that. It was something I was looking for, but it happened.

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Yeah. That that that's that's Stevie Stevie is Stevie.

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I think you know that thing that we're talking about the I I met Stevie during a Christmas party at his house or

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somebody's house at Christmas and I'm talking about whatever the coolest person. Yeah.

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He started talking to me immediately. Yeah.

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Like I was like he was like I was like he got chips on his shirt. He said well get him off my shirt. I was like, see my dick, you know, like when

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you meet it was somebody. It wasn't like the curse words or whatnot, but like you know when you meet somebody and it's just like ah I'm like not not a blind guy.

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Yeah. Yeah. Ah man. Like one of the coolest people. I was like never in my life. Never. Would you think that?

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No.

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All right. Okay. So no, that's brilliant. I think that was that was actually one of the best ones cuz we we challenged each other in ways in that one. It wasn't just reactions. So, I love that.

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I don't know, 5 years, 10 years, whatever time period you want to look where, where do you want to be? Where do you want to be 10 years from now? That is not far.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's not far. I'm I'm I'm I'm pretty sure five years into uh fully running and operating my production company.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I'll probably be in there. And that is, you know, the thing I desire is to which I which I started uh now. So

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this is kind of just the the birth of it. Um 722 Studio, which is my birthday.

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And um I just decided one day, yeah, if they going to put me in a box, I'mma build it.

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So I built the box and I put everything I wanted to do in the box and I'll do everything I want in the box. You can't come in and then I'll bring it out. Um,

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I'm smiling because I don't like people knowing when my birthday is. Okay. I hate it actually. Okay.

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I I hate birthdays. Okay.

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But not because of me, but because of what everybody thinks they have to do for me. Debbie Downer.

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Yeah. I don't like I don't like them that way. Like like because I want to enjoy them in my own way. I can't wait to your birthday.

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But then people are like, "Oh, it's your birthday. I want to do this." You can ask me what I want to do. I feel the same way.

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Okay. But but but I feel the same way. Your birth date is very close. Without

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telling everybody what mine is, it's very close.

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I'll tell you I'll tell you off off mic cuz I don't like people know.

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Okay. I do feel like that. And I feel like ridiculously close.

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If you if you would say, you know, uh if somebody says, "Oh, like happy birthday, Moose. We're going to Six Flags or we're going to Cancun." And you say, you know, that's very inconsiderate of you.

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Yeah. That's No.

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They would be like, "Are you No, no. Somebody actually did that at the office the very first time they found out at the office. And so I went into a room that was a meeting. So I

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looked on my calendar was a meeting. I walked into the room and they had a cake and they're all like surprised and I was like I'm going to go.

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I I that's no that's there has to be someone around that that doesn't happen.

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If you surprise me by taking me to Dave Chappelle to go out and that's that's very different.

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I think that people always for your birthday they do what they think you want to do 100%. It's better to just ask me, especially at this age. Yes. Just ask me

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because I promise you, give me a brand new pair of socks. I'm going to sit down. Is there a massage that I can get?

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Is there some Bailey's on ice that I can have? What's on TV? You know what I mean? You know, and you probably would have, you know, it totally different than what

1:02:38

people would do for you. So, I understand. Yeah. Where can people find you? You can't.

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No. You know what I mean? No, you can uh absolutely hit me on my social media, BR EZ official, and it's pretty much breezy official everywhere.

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Yeah. You know, I'm a millennial.

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Yeah. Yep. Yep. So, people on this podcast are people sometimes feel underrated, sometimes feel like people

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other people are picking the winners and losers of the race before it's even run.

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So, they're feeling a little bit like that.

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Knowing your story, right? Knowing what you've been through, knowing how you've been able to achieve an impact. M what would you say to them? You know,

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what would you tell them uh to inspire them to not go on your journey or my journey, but go on their

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journey and and be able to impact the world? Um I feel like if there is something you

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have that you know undoubtedly um and it is the thing that that never leaves your

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mind um try not to be as concerned with what

1:03:45

people have to say about that thing. Try to lean more into that thing. I think consistency is important, discipline is

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important. Um, and just understanding who you are and why you're doing it and never losing the plot of that. I think

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that for me it was different and you I'm not I I I feel like the freedom to experience many things and try many things is totally fine too. Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? But as long as it's what you want to do and I feel like as long as you do that, you can never be disappointed. Now, when you start doing what other people tell

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you to do, that's a that's a you know what I mean?

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It's just a whole extra layer of understanding that you don't need to worry about. You know what I mean? Let make sure it's your choice.

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And um yeah. Yeah.

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That that's that's what I feel. But there's no such thing. We make the choice. We we choose the rooms we go in.

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We choose the people we're around. We choose that. And it starts with us. So, you know, be who be who's invited.

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Be that person. Yeah. Figure it out.

1:04:50

Well, listen. All the way from razor bumps to hot tamalies to insulting Stevie Wonder.

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Oh god.

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No, but we No, but honestly, it's real talk. I appreciate you. Um, thank you for coming by. Thank you for spending time with me.

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This is This is This is crazy up early.

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This is crazy cuz our conversation our first conversation probably would have been like that any like this anyway. Yeah. On the porch.

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We just recorded it on the porch, right? We should have did that, man. Yeah. But no, I appreciate it. I'll owe you a book. You do? Yeah.

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Uh and I'll sign it for you. But thanks again. I appreciate you. I appreciate you.

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